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Post by twilightelusion on Nov 29, 2010 13:05:12 GMT 8
"2010 MAMA", Performance "Good", fairness "Bad"."Is this an award ceremony or a year-end music festival"? * Participating artists from other countries, various performances... "Good". * Reaction from fans? "Good". * The matter of fairness this year is still "Bad". * "Our own music festival" No Asia unity... "Bad". * All actors as presenters in a music festival? "Bad". SOURCE: NATE TRANSLATION by suzelle@IAMfor2AM - 2AM International Forum PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT OUT OF THIS FORUM.
suzelle was looking at news and according to her there was a lot written about the MAMA, some good reviews (like the performances, etc) the other not so good which discuss the MAMA's lacking areas. This is the summary of the main points from the article. Since I couldn't put it anywhere, I decided that we should just have a general discussion about it.
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MAMA 'under attack' for belatedly announced BoA and 2AM as winners.2010 MAMA (Mnet Asian Music Awards) is under attack for the delayed announcement of the winners for some categories. During the 2010 MAMA ceremony, which was held on 28th November at Venetian Hotel in Macao, the winners for Best Female Singer, Best New Male Singer and Best Vocal Performance were not announced. After that Mnet released news that the winners are BoA for Best Female Singer, CNBlue for Best New Male Singer and 2AM for Best Vocal Performance. But Mnet did not provide any kind of explanation, only stated, "The categories of Best New Male Singer etc were cut due to the time slot provided for overseas live broadcast." Most of the viewers and netizens commented that the action of excluding the winners of Best Female Singer, Best New Male Singer from the actual ceremony was unacceptable." Even Rain, who couldn't fly to Macao because he had to perform at the closing ceremony for Asian Games in Guangzhou and also film his drama "Fugitive Plan B", gave his winning speech through video recording. Updated on 30 November 2010 SOURCE:NATE TRANSLATION by suzelle@IAMfor2AM - 2AM International Forum PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT OUT OF THIS FORUM.
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Post by loisginn on Nov 29, 2010 13:15:02 GMT 8
i agree that the participating artist from other countries and the various performances is good love G.D., TOP and taeyang.. hahahaha... but overall the award show is not good for me.. it's not fair and in all the award show i saw i mean i saw quite a lot they will still give the award to people even though they are not there and there really is no fairness to it all.. really really.. this is the first time i see a music award that cut off the award just because the artist are not there.. so hilarious really.. i mean who does that.. i think it's not fair not just to the artist and if they would do a public voting they should at least give a fair chance for the artist to win..
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Post by goof on Nov 29, 2010 13:15:44 GMT 8
i liked what was circulating around today in twitter MAMA= MISSING ARTISTS MISSING AWARDS
i went to watch it the performances were good, the fans cheering was great; did you guys hear the fans cheering for 2AM/GAIN.. wow for IAMS and Adams fans not being able to hear our artists' names as winners was a big let-down
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Post by yobishi on Nov 29, 2010 13:25:41 GMT 8
For me, the performance is actually quite nice, the stage is fabulous, despite some performance lack of voice (WG,2PM). They have nice concept. But the attendance seems pity, and absolutely no professionalism according to the award. How come there's a sudden award, I mean there's some award without nominee, and they give it to people who attend the show. And they skipped some award. I won't be proud if I were to be given in this kind of award. So I guess this can be called as music festival. Performance : over all good Award event : worse
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Post by khaiidyosa on Nov 29, 2010 13:28:43 GMT 8
FAIRNESS = BAD (period!)
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Post by suzelle on Nov 29, 2010 13:51:43 GMT 8
I didn't watch MAMA last night. But I'm quite happy to hear from you guys that 2AM and Ga In got great response. I agree with yobishi. If I were given an award in a show that reeked unfairness, even though I was totally talented and absolutely deserved it, it wouldn't make me proud. Some of those artists who attended the show and won some awards probably felt a bit off. To think that MAMA once stated that they wanted to be like the Grammy Awards in the US... Lord have mercy.
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Post by twilightelusion on Nov 29, 2010 14:02:23 GMT 8
Which was why I was very happy when 2AM announced they were not going for the awards. Crap, I really didn't want them to be labelled as "the group who won because they were THERE". Some of the categories were not sudden, it's just not up for voting. Which comes the silly part because it's supposed to be an ASIAN music award right? The best part was these awards didn't even have a nomination video, which i thought was super comical when the presenter announced, "There's no video for this nomination.." (Can't remember which award it was) I was like.. wow~ well done Mnet for making the artiste feel fantastic.. -.- miss A's interaction on stage with the person who won the most creative MV award was awkward, they could have used a translator but i guess they spent it all on flying the girl from France. And it was actually very sad when the camera goes to the attendees and miss A kept appearing because they didn't have a major performance like 2PM and the YGE family. YGE probably only went because it was a good stage to announce GD and TOP's new album!! That's cool!! Totally loved the trio's performance!!! Yes my bias is showing! and 2NE1 were the big winners after all. SME fans are totally twisted about MAMA but they should know better. even I know they won't be attending/getting anything even if they won the voting by a huge difference. I really stopped voting after 2AM announced they weren't going.
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Post by ohthatlove on Nov 29, 2010 14:05:35 GMT 8
Performance = Excellent. Organisation and Management = EPIC FAILURE.
I never understood why MAMA didn't even mention a SINGLE THING about the MISSING AWARDS. I mean does it kills to even mention the winners that are not around? MAMA ended quite abruptly, and while i was seeing Fei celebrating, my mind was like "WHAT? IT ENDED JUST LIKE THIS?!". I thought MNET wanted to abandon it seriously. It was not only @_xeth told us the good news.
Overall, I can understand why everyone hates MAMA. And in times to come, MAMA will never be a like a Grammy Awards in US in the near future unless the whole management is changed.
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Post by athenarei on Nov 29, 2010 14:16:25 GMT 8
~LOL, MAMA = Missing Artists, Missing Awards ... crazy but true ...
~I watched the whole streaming and from the red carpet until the awardings, it felt LACKING(?) ... But I sure did enjoy the performances from BB boys and 2NE1, 2PM's concept is nice but I can barely hear them - don't know if it's a mic prob or something, the same goes with WG ... Other countries' performance is quite nice, too. I liked the guy who's wearing white, he sang a duet with Gummy also. Hhhmmm, Chemistry(?) - think they're from Japan - their music is pleasant to my ears so I kinda like theirs, too ...
~FANS: They're awesome! Can't complain, their presence I think is the only thing that reminded me that it was an award show I'm watching ... I really get those shivers everytime there are loud screams when 2AM and Gain were shown as nominees ... Am clapping crazily in front of my PC ... whooohooo ... nuts =p
~Presentors: Nah, don't care much about them aside from their fashion ... My work's into fashion so I watched the red carpet for that one reason: What's The Trend now for Korean Celebrities/Idols ...
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Post by mbane25 on Nov 29, 2010 14:44:48 GMT 8
First time watching MAMA.. 2 hours of red carpet was a waste of time.. based on the chat room, the mc were asking the same questions...it was boring to watch..plus, they started late as well..
As for the performance, it was great to watch various artists from different countries.. amazing stage.. However, Mnet should really find a way to fix their microphone system.. it was awkward to watch WG, you can hardly hear their voices. I hate to say this but I did not like the ending of 2PM perf - tearing tank top..for me, there is no reason for them to do it..
As being fair, we know that it was the worse.. plus, Adding awards at the last minute...
Also, they could have cut the show from 4 hrs to less than 3 hours.. to kill time, they kept showing the same CF all over.. In addition, Mnet should have confirmed which kpop artists will be attending... some of the fans kept asking about fav idols and did not realize that they were not attending...
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Post by bitzes on Nov 29, 2010 15:24:32 GMT 8
i watched it last night .. my fam was like, is that asian award? why does it seems like it's all korean? lool ..
MAMA = Missing Artists Missing Awards -- so true! lol
i only watched it hoping to see 2AM/GaIn's video message cuz i know they would win but WTH, they didn't show it ..i was really disappointed .. im not a fan of any music companies (only 2AM/BEG) but the awards are really unfair .. im a 2AM & GaIn bias but i think they should've won the song of the year/ music video of the year .. or if not epic high for MV award .. and it feels like only 2PM/2en1/Miss A won all the awards bcuz they are present .. id feel horrrible if i win those awards given to them when it should be not .. MAMA wanted to change this year's award? what a big joke!
perfomances wise, it was quite good .. stage settings are quite nice .. but i didn't like WG & 2PM's perf much.. i couldn't hear them singing .. i loved BB's perf and DJ DOC.. lol
i was only glad when they were announcing 2AM and GaIn as nominees cuz the fans were screaming/cheering loudly .. it just means that they prefer 2AM & GaIn over those who won .. loool
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Post by mss89 on Nov 29, 2010 15:47:53 GMT 8
Glad that I didnt watch MAMA yesterday From everything i read, Mnet was not professional at all. If they dont change the way they work, I really hope that 2AM wont attend any awards of Mnet That kind of award 's more like a shame than an honour
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Post by kpopfangirl23 on Nov 29, 2010 15:52:32 GMT 8
Sad I didn't see 2am or SM artists but... It was pretty good overall. I think the performances from the different artists made up for it. (for me anyways)
Eg: Big Bang, 2NE1 and Wonder Girls performances were great.
Inkigayo was before the MAMA awards so It was a good night for me to see many artists perform in 1 night. XD
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Post by xuan234xuan on Nov 29, 2010 17:56:24 GMT 8
yaeh! i agree with this. their performance was really good, i admit it. but they are too biased. i thought they just give the awards for who had attended the MAMA.
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Post by bells2am on Nov 29, 2010 18:04:51 GMT 8
I GOTTA SAY 2PM ENTIRE "STRUCTURE TO BREAKING UP" CONCEPT IS REALLY AWESOME. I really liked it. I mean although everyone finds Nickhun like the face of the group, the performance totally showed out 2PM's success and growth, since they were doing the collation of their best songs and I could sing 4 out of 6 although I don't listen much to 2PM. It was really good. JunSu's part was a little short, but the shirt-ripping at the end of "I'll be back" was...
MAMA was epic fail. Like how we say in singapore, kelong. It's pure nonsense. I gave up after watching like near 2 hours of it. And I missed the front by a little, to think I was so eager to watch it, but it's so boring I guess I didn't miss anything much.
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