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Post by kwonislove on Dec 11, 2010 20:12:58 GMT 8
Don't take this the wrong way! I'm a super-duper HUGE Adam Couple Fan. But.... Recently, i feel that they are drifting further and further apart. i was watching all the previous episodes and i noticed that before, there was more affection. It feels like Kwon and Gain are not so close anymore. Especially for Kwon, he feels colder. this totally makes the episodes more "unexciting" for me! Could it be because the "honeymoon" period is over and they're too familiar with each other? Or the sibling thing in AML makes them act more like sibling than husband/wife? Or they're too tired from their busy schedules??? NOOOO!!! i want the couple to be just as loving!!! yeah, that's my thoughts so far. today's episode was okay, i wanted to see more interaction though.
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Post by twilightelusion on Dec 11, 2010 20:50:24 GMT 8
^ I don't think they show their affections thru physical touches anymore. I feel a lot of their communication has gone to the "unspoken". There is the distance there, I'd admit, but my point of view is that when 2 person are TOO CLOSE, they won't show it to the world. It's like I know I can hold my guy friend's hand without him thinking it's weird cos we know that there's nothing between us but for their case, I think i wrote something about it before. the feeling of the moment we touch, we won't let go? that's what I get from watching them. Kwon has become very cautious, for whatever reasons, I doubt it has got to do with anything with them having to act as siblings on AML. I believe they are professional enough to put everything in separate circles. Like "WGM" "AML" "Kwon-GaIn (whatever their relationship is)" LOVE is not always SHOWN. Look a little closer and maybe you can catch the nuances between them. Not so obvious in this ep but look at the ones before they went to Jeju, the looks they give each other, I get shivers thinking about it. Actually now if they were to SHOW they are loving, i would suspect more.
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Post by juliachia on Dec 11, 2010 21:59:26 GMT 8
Don't take this the wrong way! I'm a super-duper HUGE Adam Couple Fan. But.... Recently, i feel that they are drifting further and further apart. i was watching all the previous episodes and i noticed that before, there was more affection. It feels like Kwon and Gain are not so close anymore. Especially for Kwon, he feels colder. this totally makes the episodes more "unexciting" for me! Could it be because the "honeymoon" period is over and they're too familiar with each other? Or the sibling thing in AML makes them act more like sibling than husband/wife? Or they're too tired from their busy schedules??? NOOOO!!! i want the couple to be just as loving!!! yeah, that's my thoughts so far. today's episode was okay, i wanted to see more interaction though. dont feel too sad over today's episode..their interactions cut down since they were busily taking care of the kids..just look at them having fun before making their way to the kindergarden. but i have to agree with you that kwonnie's reaction really did toned down a lil these few episodes..*some point of time i blame the sofa* im thinking if its like what Nayoung said. "guys are the same".its like when guys get the girl they want, their level of love goes down a bit???who knows..maybe they are already dating off screen..but im sure there are some reasons behind it like what Audrey mentioned.. eyes dont lie..just look at the way kwon looked at gain and you will know..from "adam couple is forever" to sending flowers backstage...it tells everything... above is just my 50cents worth.. so cheer up and dont brood over it.
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Post by icha2307 on Dec 11, 2010 22:39:48 GMT 8
But.... Recently, i feel that they are drifting further and further apart. i was watching all the previous episodes and i noticed that before, there was more affection. It feels like Kwon and Gain are not so close anymore. Especially for Kwon, he feels colder. this totally makes the episodes more "unexciting" for me! I thought it's just me who noticed it.. u_u I notice this week's episode..why are they sitting far away from each other? maybe it's bcos of the sofa like juliachia said ahhaa.. I do hope it's like what twilightelusion said..they're just being cautious not to show too much affection? xD btw..which look do you refer to? the one before they went to jeju at the airport?
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Post by twilightelusion on Dec 11, 2010 22:53:12 GMT 8
I don't know.. You should remember what Kwon said about how if he's feeling real emotions, he doesn't really OUTWARDLY show it.
As fans, we want to see the touches, the physical because we are not there so we can't feel the love around them.
Maybe I'm strange, I feel that this is more real than before. When they SAY or ACT in a certain manner, it can be scripted. But when they are just being this way, I feel it's more real.
There was a reason why MBC banned interaction outside of WGM and personally I feel it's beginning to show in their relationship - they already know everything about each other. They see each other at least 2 times a week for AML filming. I bet they exchange text msgs + phone calls. You realise they don't really go "ah right, do you know..." because we know they know. ahahah~
They have quietly grown to lean and depend on each other, to me, that's a comfort level that not all couples can find. If you compare with the other 2 couples, you realise they are DOING a lot in order to fill up the time. But for Adam, the quiet reliance is there.
This week, you realise that while Kwon was giving out the morning snack, GaIn just sat there helping along when necessary.
When Kwon was reading the story, she tried to talk to the kids a little but in the end, in order not to let him feel bad, she was the one who clapped and cheered.
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Post by icha2307 on Dec 11, 2010 23:06:45 GMT 8
hmm I havent finished watching this week episode...
you're right though.. I can also sense they're really comfortable and depend on each other.... :DD
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Post by mss89 on Dec 11, 2010 23:41:38 GMT 8
I do agree with Twiligtelusion They 'r a " one year and 3 months" couple They care and understand each other enough I think its more weird/ strange if they try to do skinship or show their love by acting some romantic scenes all the time If you say that Kwon was holding back his emotion or colder You have to ask yourself why he was like that ? If its for the show, he should have shown more affection, done more skinships But not They'r just a couple like all real couples out there At first stage of their relationship, They want to show their love to everyone by doing skinships, acting lovey-dovey But now, they just do that when no one 's around, just two of them in their own world. (take this from my friends 's relationship ( a 2-year couple and a 4-year couple). Never do skinship in front of us but the way they talked, the way they looked at each other can tell you everything ^^)
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Post by queenoflights on Dec 11, 2010 23:44:35 GMT 8
For me, I like where they are at now. Honestly, if they were to bicker all the time like they used to or show excessive skinship suddenly, it would be weird and a lil fake? Like they are trying too hard? They have come a long way in their relationship and have made a lot of progress.
Right now, i sense that they are really comfortable with each other. They may not have much interaction but i laughed throughout the episode. Maybe it could be our expectations for them to be physical in each ep that you are feeling the distance? I dont really feel the distance between them.
If you observe closely, it's all there. It's all done very naturally and subconsciously cos they are prob used to it. Like aud mentioned, gain supported him and was there just like a gf/wife would be. We are prob missing out on a lot cos they interact so much outside of wgm. Kwon has mentioned several times in his BRI that he would call gain and they would talk abt this or that. With AML, they are def meeting and talking a lot more and when we watch wgm, it's like we have skipped a few of the steps.
Also, what we are seeing on wgm is edited and what the PDs want to show us. I believe editing makes a huge difference and it sets the tone of the episode. Past eps is testimony to this. So, in a way the viewers are manipulated by the content shown. Can go any way.
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Post by icha2307 on Dec 12, 2010 0:18:50 GMT 8
I got your points guys.. now that I observe them more intently xD I'm not really good in reading people expression and furthermore, I've never been in a relationship myself, so it's a bit hard for me to "translate" what couples' interactions means u__u
honestly, I don't really have expectation of skinship or physical contact bcos I know they already passed the stage where they should show excessive skinship, what a little bit bothers me is why kwon calls her "noona" more often now? It seems more distant.. ahaha
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Post by twilightelusion on Dec 12, 2010 0:30:49 GMT 8
I think the other factor is actually HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THE ADAM?
This is not a superiority thing, ie. I have watch them from the beginning therefore I know more. NO. definitely not. I didn't start from the VERY beginning either, prob ard Dec last year.
But what I want to emphasize is that if you started from the beginning and followed their progress by the week, you would prob be comfortable with their current status. I believe part of our discomfort has got to do with what GaIn said about she feeling that she loves Kwon more than he loves her now. But you see, the thing is, what if Kwon started off at 85% and GaIn started off at 30%. How much further can Kwon go to reach that 100%? versus how much GaIn can. With that admission, we also have to realise what GaIn is telling us: initially, she didn't like/love Kwon as much as he does.
I hate to do this but at the end of the day, this is a show. There are a lot of elements in a SHOW. I believe their actions/reactions are real BUT as mentioned, editing makes a great difference.
I was watching Invincible Youth and it was brought up that MinHo's ideal was Goo HaRa. He admitted as much that that was because of editing. It was a different question altogether. So when you watch the BRI, sometimes, you realised that there are a lot of "pauses" that doesn't make sense. The answer answers the question, but remember that can be dubbed and the subtitles can be done post-production.
So, my advice is to watch it like entertainment. I know we all invest a lot of time and love in the couple. Not saying you should love them less, cos I don't. Don't begrudge them if they showed less than expected. Can you imagine if someone from the production team reads the fans' comments and ASK them to have more skinship, would that make you happier?
Strangely, I don't think I'd be.
BUT i'm still holding out for a REAL kiss FROM Kwon. GaIn has done all the initiation of kisses thus far, so yes, that's the one thing I'm holding out for.
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Post by fai on Dec 12, 2010 0:59:26 GMT 8
I agree with twilightelusion here. For me, this is first and foremost, a show. Therefore, the editing plays a very large part of what to be shown on screen. They can twist into whatever way they want. Perhaps everyone still remember the bag-giving ep, the order of what they said was actually different from what they show on screen, right? Plus, they are supposed to be together for whole day and the Production team just pick 20 mins out of it...
However, as much as i think this is only a show, the Adam's chemistry is there. And I actually like it like this. Everything is more subtle now. Remember how last ep, Kwon just kept fixing Ga-in hair and clothes? That's what I call 'comfortable'. And when you see it like that, isn't it like 'they can't keep their hands off each other' ?? I mean it depends on how we view it, right?
Also, i think they've entered the more 'mature' stage of the married.. after 1 year, you're no longer newlywed, right? Things are more familiar, they're more comfortable now so the interactions are also calmer.
As for the REAL Kwon-GaIn, what are they to each other, only they know. I do spazz about them for every bits of news, but if they decide to be private about their relationship, I totally understand and respect that though the fangirl in me of course hope for a happy announcement from them ^^...
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Post by goof on Dec 12, 2010 1:30:31 GMT 8
i actually like the way they are now then before... it was chaos, childish (push-pull), uncertain feelings, bickering and more kkab... Kwon was cute back then yes but his level of affection was quite higher than Gain, nowadays its more equal(?)... i feel that their relationship is maturing, its changing because Kwon is growing up and Gain is responding to it and isnt taking charge like she used to... i wouldve been worried if they stayed the same...
Kwon hasnt only changed with her but with us as well, he's more serious and quieter.. dont forget no matter how kkab he is or fun loving, he's still a growing man... one with thousands of worries and responsabilities and a leader to a growing popular group of singers... whatever is happening in his life will reflect in WGM, that's how REAL the show is to both... all the acting is done in AML, thats where the characters will either stay the same or change according to what the viewers want...
but even if i say all, at the end of the day we never know, it is still up to them to make their future.. together or apart... (though would he send all these flowers if he's been getting cold, he's very busy right now)
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Post by bitzes on Dec 13, 2010 0:27:45 GMT 8
hmmmm... i actually like the way they are now ..they have matured so much esp. kwon .. GaIn isn't like before either .. she actually lets kwonnie do his thing when before she gets lil embarassed .. she does things out of ordinary for her.. Kwon does the same (like buying expensive gifts for her when we know how frugal kwon is) ..their skinship is still there just subtle.. but who knows? maybe there were lot but they edited it out ..one of my fave with these previous episodes is that when both of them is trying to fix each other's clothes, hair.. it's soo natural just like what real couples do..i have a lot of friends do that with their bf/gf in front of us and after years of being together they don't do so much skinship anymore( well, just in front of us though)..lool.. i love the way they look at each other .. u can tell by just looking at each other, there is sth there..love? maybe.. their eyes lit up every time they look at each other.. it's as if they have their own world ..in just one look, they already know .. and i love the way they support, encourage each other in and out of wgm .. and i love the fact that they show all these affections outside wgm!! now, isn't that more comforting? .. hehe.. that isn't for show anymore.. they don't have to those kinds of thing.. cyworld, twitter, me2day, etc .. Kwon giving flowers to GaIn encouraging her, supporting her..and i heard that GaIn is going to 2AM's concert since Kwon gave her flowers.. isnt' that more personal? im not saying wgm isn't but it's still a show just that they show their true selves and feelings.. i do agree though that in wgm, Kwon has been cautious these past few eps.. maybe they have unspoken agreement.. i don't know.. he's been quiet .. i do remember though, that Kwon is kkab but kinda intimidating.. Even Seulong and Jinwoon said that Kwon changed when he "married" Gain..he doesn't act like that with them.. so no, i don't think they drifted apart.. just the opposite.. they became more closer and more comfortable.. plus they do see each other more often, Gain said that she sees a lot of Kwon more than her family.. and they do call each other a lot outside wgm .. someone asked why Kwon kept calling GaIn noona .. Noona for them is more personal .. i do however like when they call each other yeobo .. but i'd have to be content with Kwon calling her Noona.. remember when Kwon called Park Myung Soo on radio before and he wrote a letter for GaIn? .. there's an erasure, he erased Yeobo and instead wrote Noona..on GaIn's BRI, she said sth like when i heard/saw the letter that instead of Kwon writing yeobo, he wrote noona, she knew that it's more personal ..
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Post by thuylinhkz on Dec 13, 2010 1:26:01 GMT 8
How long does it take to make English sub? I can't understand anything. It's really uncomfortable
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Post by twilightelusion on Dec 13, 2010 1:26:12 GMT 8
crazy thot: Maybe Kwon is GaIn noona in the hope that she would call him "Kwon-ah~"
"yeobo" is a term that created to be used in the show. We have our fantasies about them because of the show definitely but ever thought of what happens beyond that space? I would think that if they are comfortable addressing each other the way they do outside WGM, i think it's a good thing. It's cute that when they are putting in REAL elements into the show, we want them to remain in the show THEN we speculate if they are real -.- heehee ^^
Yes, as audience we are equally confused. But personally, I'm ok with whatever they call each other, for all we know on the personal level they have really disgustingly sweet nicknames for each other.
Yes I'm crazy fantasizing again~ bah~
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